Flaming is the hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users. Flaming usually occurs in the social context of a discussion board, Internet Relay Chat (IRC) or even through e-mail. An Internet user typically generates a flame response to other posts or users posting on a site, and such a response is usually not constructive, does not clarify a discussion, and does not persuade others. Sometimes, flamers attempt to assert their authority, or establish a position of superiority over other users. Other times, a flamer is simply an individual who believes he or she carries the only valid opinion. This leads him or her to personally attack those who disagree. Occasionally, flamers wish to upset and offend other members of the forum, in which case they can be called "trolls". Most often however, flames are angry or insulting messages transmitted by people who have strong feelings about a subject.
I am being "harassed" online by a FLAMING IDIOT....
I will not reveal the place this is happening or the pathetic being doing this.
I just want to make a point.
When you go on a message board, it is generally to gather or reveal information.
That is all I ever wanted to do when I post on Autism Message Forum Boards...any
of them.
As of recently, a person, who is obviously unhappy with her menial little life has
chosen to harass me by provoking flame wars on a particular message board on
a well-known website.
I have chosen my blog to step up and say that I have chosen not to address this
person on that board, because frankly, I am BORED with this person.
I wish she will get the help she so desperately needs. First and foremost, for
her children...next, for her family, and last for herself.
I also hope she finds a dictionary...it is spelled DEFINITELY....see no A....
When I chose to go public with my amazing family, I was warned about being ridiculed
and having my family put into positions of being made fun of.
We chose to go forward in an effort to show families with children with Autism that
it is not all "GLOOM AND DOOM", but can be a very positive experience for every person
that is involved with your children.
We have had death threats, our mailbox blown up, hateful letters, hateful phone calls
and emails.
But all of this was worth the thousands of well-wishes and love sent to us from people
whom we have never met and never will.
No one can shut me up or shut me out. I just WILL NOT take a part of something that
reminds me of dealing with a "childhood bully".....GROW UP ALREADY....
Get up away from your computer. Go outside and get some fresh air...
Better yet...GET A THERAPIST!!!!!
About Me
- Mom26children
- I am the proud mother of 6 children. 5 of our children have autism. We do not feel our world has ended, but just begun. We do not chelate, intervene biochemically, give shots of any kind, practice ABA, etc. We treat them as we treat any humanbeing. We treat them with kindness and respect and expect the same from them. They are exceptional children.
Monday, February 04, 2008
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You GO, girl!!
thank you thank you thank you!!!
i've just discovered your blog and have been reading all day yesterday (well... in 10 min increments--lots of interruptions!). it was a mixed feeling of wanting to read more and signing off because of the cruel unjustified attacks on your entries and comments!!! i'm a new mom in this autism world and you made me laugh, cry, and best of all, hope. yes, i've tried the gfcf diet, questioned the vaccines, and currently in more therapies than i can keep up. i have no idea what's the 'right' way, 'wrong' way, ... i'm just praying daily that i'm doing my best. your entries are a breath of fresh air to me and i hope you don't get discouraged by these people who want to attack you for writing what you feel on YOUR OWN BLOG!!! and even though my son is currently in ABA therapy, i never for once felt attacked by you in your comments. i understood what you meant and how you meant it. please continue writing all your pearls of wisdom. i, for one, love reading them!!! i hope one day to meet your amazing children!
-julie from san diego-
I've seen the attack dogs circle you on a couple of boards. They really are flaming idiots. I always hope that their bullying is obvious enough to people who have no background in knowing who you are or who they are.
What I see is you being dignified and them being bullies and worse.
I am shocked your mailbox was blown up! I guess I shouldn't be. Considering the whackos out there expressing themselves online in the "autism wars".
I hope that besides this stupid business with the bullies that your life is going wonderfully well. It's the best revenge, isn't it? :-)
Julie from San Diego,
Thanks for your lovely comments. All we can do is our best. Our oldest will be 17 on Friday. I like to think I have a little experience in Autism.
I hope one day you can meet my children too. They are awesome.
Jeanette
Hi Ms.Clark,
Our life is wonderful...hectic, yet wonderful.
The kids are doing so well in school, our 11 year old WILL NOT require services for Special Ed. or Autism as a Middle Schooler.
She scored really high in placement tests. We are so proud of her.
We are so proud of them all.
Jeanette
Oh honey, I don't think a therapist is in the cards for that woman. She sees herself as the perfect wife, mother and friend.
However, she is the Queen of Denial.
What sort of person does this as a full-time job with no pay? Does she ever leave her computer? (I kinda doubt it)
You keep up the good work sweetie.
You're a great mom and I know it *clap clap* your kids know it, your husband knows it--we all know it.
Hugs your way,
Amy
It's funny how different people observe things differently. I see a bunch of looney tunes women attacking a very nice, intelligent mother of twins. When I see the deranged Diva agreeing with you, I know my perspective is accurate.
Foresam,
Who is attacking who???
Go back and reread the messages.
Very nice or intelligent is not what I would define her as....she cannot even spell correctly for Goodness sakes.
Why don't the two of you have a lovely time over on your very slow blog?
Jeanette
Sheesh. I don't get it. I do not understand why people on the internet are so angry and so full of hate. Aren't we all just trying to do the best for our families? Honestly, why should anyone care what you are or aren't doing, they are YOUR kids and YOUR family, and you have to do what you see fit. Just like I do, and others before me. I have enough to worry about without having to worry about people flaming me on the internet. Seriously, get a life.
I do think that folks spend way too much time on the computer. It's a scary world out there. So much conflicting info. So much stuff that is "too good to be true." Sorry, anything that promises to "Cure my child from evil for the hefty price of $$$$" is too good to be true. Know what? We're happy, he's happy. No one ever said that life would be easy. It isn't easy, but it is good. That's all I could ever want.
C'mon folks. Get a life, quit flaming people. That's for schoolyard bullies. Worry about your own problems and leave other people alone.
Tell me who this idiot is and I will go whip some ass!
Jealousy (sp) is the problem with these people, they just cannot stand the fact that your have accepted your children and your life for what it is.
Your supposed to be miserable just like them!
Oh Vicki,
This woman is waaayyy beyond jealous, she is plain frickin scary.
She is so far in her "sickness" that she needs real help, real fast.
She has small children and I am worried for them. If she is this scary to someone she doesn't even know, how is she with them????
a very nice, intelligent mother of twins.
I think I just wet myself.
Thanks for the laugh, John!
I know Amy...John did everything but tell us her name.
With friends like that...
Jeanette
My husband's cousin runs a clinic in WI and UK. WEAP, You might visit the website.
Glen O. Sallows, Ph.D.
Dr. Sallows is a Clinical Psychologist and Board Certified Behavior Analyst. He is the President and co-founder of the Wisconsin Early Autism Project.
I have a question, from seeing your last name, I assume you are Irish (so am I and proud of it). I hear that they have a high rate of autism in Ireland. I don't know where I heard this from, reading something somewhere. Are you directly from Ireland? Has anyone mentioned this before? I wish you and your family all of the best and hope you have a wonderful year ahead.
When dgdavis64 finds a rock, she simply cannot stop beating her head with it. Once bloodied, however, she will squeal “victim.”
In her blind anger to prove an inane point, or to prove that she is the most prolific bad arse on the internet, she is too thick to even recognize the restraint exercised on part of those she attacks.
Nonetheless, for the sake of her children, I hope the bitter cloud of dysfunction lifts on Creekview Drive, and that she is able to work things out with Andrew.
:)
Well, hey! If that bitter cloud of dysfunction doesn't lift after all of Andrew's hard work in therapy to deal with his wife's anger (poor guy!), he could always cast her aside like he did his first wife! He ditched the first when she started getting a little long in the tooth; a successful guy like that could probably find a younger, thinner wife in no time!
We're pulling for you Andrew, but rest assured that if you decide to call it quits, John Best will be waiting in the wings to take up where you left off....
I think I just threw up a little.
Is this person from a message board? This woman's life sounds like a soap opera.
Jeanette,
A comment I left on a long thread that had been hijacked by a troll, over on Kristina Chew's AutismVox blog, might be a propos here, to the situation you're in dealing with your "flaming idiot":
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*plonk*
(You young ‘uns probably have never heard that sound: *plonk* is the sound that a good old-fashioned 1970s-vintage ASCII-text Usenet News reader program made (in the mind’s eye — we had to use our imagination!) when you plopped yet another troll’s Usenet address onto your killfile. A killfile was a list of people whose posts your newsreader would simply skip and not show you. And Lovaas thinks he invented “extinction”. Ha.)
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You women are nuts (that includes you, Schwarz). If you could learn what Diane is trying to teach you, your kids would be much better off...like hers are.
There in lies the problem John,
this person does not try to teach or help anybody. She is there to bring her hatred and bad spelling.
She does not understand 1/2 of the articles she posts.
If she would be pleasant and not so intent on "putting people in their places", she might be better received.
She is angry and bitter.
She is easily ignored.
Jeanette
If she didn't have a bunch of loons defending drug companies harping on her every word, you might get along.
She does not bring hatred, she brings knowledge, that you and your friends just don't want to accept.
John,
Do you or Diane read what you write before you hit the send button.
You both sound ridiculous.
Please refrain from commenting on my blog, as I have refrained from commenting on yours.
You and Diane may use your lovely blog for your "lovefest". Please don't bring it to mine.
She has lost her mind, as a friend, you should help her find it.
Jeanette
Foresam,
If you do not curb this foolishness I will be forced to fetch a "switch." It would at least be handy to scrape the woo from my shoe.
If you are ever in Chesapeake, you might swing by Diane's give her some tips on making friends on the internet.
That way, you can both claim to have a real-life friend, and Andrew would probably appreciate the respite.
Have a sane day. :)
Jeanette,
Just wanted to let you know I back you up whenever I see you flamed. Even if I don't say it publicly.
If you find the internet such a hostile place, why don't you log off & go take care of those 6 kids of your's.....or are they on autopilot?
mom26......um aren't you the mom in Texas that threatened to "take 2 of them" with you if you were to die & sterilize a third???
Hum...mommy dearest??????
I hear you offer your "signature" to people on some of the boards you post to....
Isn't that just a bit narcissistic?
Who takes care of your kids while you engage in these flame wars? Maybe a call to the authorities in Austin is in order here.
The Anony"coward" duo...
You obviously don't have the backbone to have a person-to-person conversation. Otherwise, you would not hide behind an anonymous label.
When you decide you can be an ADULT, we will talk. I have enough children in my life to take care of.
Jeanette
Anonymous #3...
Are you that stupid???
Do you really think that they would find anything???
That sounds like a verifiable threat to me...
Jeanette
Threatening to kill your own kid is easily verifiable.
You live in a glass house, providing transparent insights into your intentions.
Only a fool would put their children in jeopardy by exposing their lives on the internet, oh, wait, no one else has threatened to kill them.....
Just you.....
Remaining Anon is how you keep crazy people from finding & killing you.
I usually refrain from engaging in these blogs but threatening to call the authorities because you disagree with someone's else opinion on something is way over the top....you need to get help and soon.
You don't know the first thing about Jeanette, Patrick or the kids...you seem bent on harassing her on every possible website she chooses to share her thoughts with....I think you should change your name from Anon to Hitler!!!
Wow, you threatened to kill your own children.
That's sick.
I can see where you'd worry....I mean what will they find in a home where the mom openly threatens to kill her children.
Hey,
Anonymous...I am not worried..but you might want to be.
Do you really think you are Anonymous? Do you really think your IP cannot be found?
Because you do not like what I blogged you think it is okay to threaten me...????
How immature can you be?
Diane, you have just shown how really menial you really are...
I am sad for you, but mostly sad for your children.
I will add you in my prayers tonight.
And you're going to turn me in for what?
Really, how insane is that?
You have 6 kids, 5 are autistic, but you spend all you time on the net, and are on the record saying you'll "take out" 2 of your own children in the event you're going to die!!!!
But, me, I'm a threat?
To what?
I've never even THOUGHT of harming a hair on the head of my child, much less publicly threatened their lives.
Get a grip.
Okay..I will talk to you like you are STUPID..
When you threaten to call in a person or people to authorities for abuse and this abuse is unfounded, that is AGAINST THE LAW.
Filing a false complaint, which you would be doing, is ILLEGAL.
Do you understand that?
Also, my kids are asleep and in bed.
How am I neglecting them?
Do you think before you push the send button?
My children have received funding through MHMR for many years. Once a month we are visited by a Social Worker. Do you think they would leave my children here if they were in any danger?
You guys really need to get off of the internet and get some Sunshine.
My children are amazing. They are well cared for and happy.
Why would you do anything to them, they are innocent?
Ok,
You publicly admitted to thinking of killing 2 of your children.
Now your panties are all wadded up in your crack, worried about a visit from authorities.....
but, you have nothing to worry about, because these authorities are already coming to you house monthly.
Do you read this stuff before you hit "send?"
If you have nothing to worry about, why, pray tell, are you worried?
I am not worried at all....I am not the one who "threatened" to call the authorities unwarranted, you are.
If I waited until after you killed one of them......
You figure it out.
Jeanette,
Someone wise once told me "Don't let the stupidniks get you down." And I can see that you are already following that advice.
If someone is talking about alerting the authorities, they need to be very very careful about what they have written themselves in regards to disciplining their own children. What kind of barbarian uses a switch on developmentally delayed three year olds?! That's just mean and abusive. Of course, she's friends with ForeSam, who beats up Sam with his fists, then uses the lame excuse of "I want to teach him how to fist fight so he won't be a pussy." So the two of them are in good company.
Apparently, these two lovebirds share more than just bad spelling skills. Their child-rearing "skills" are hauntingly similar..... (Now take note Diane, that is correct use of scare quotes. They're used to denote sarcasm.
I wonder if Diane used a switch when her twins were three, what on earth does she use to discipline them now?! Eeeek!
Poor poor Andrew. I wonder if his girlfriend knows about how mean his wife is. At least she can comfort him. :) All Andrew ever sees of Diane is the back of her head and her gigantic ass cascading over the seat of her desk chair.
Another message of love from the autism hub. You "ladies" should be ashamed of yourselves. Jeanette is this the type of garbage you want your kids to read on your "upbeat", "positive" blog?
Anonymous,
I am sorry I did not respond to the last comment earlier. I have been working at an Autism Workshop all day.
I was going to delete the last few comments that were left, but after I received a PM from the said person from what I wrote about in my blog, I have decided to keep them on.
I am trying my best to ignore this person, yet she is intent on being annoying.
I work in the Autism community. She is saying to me that I am a joke in the Autism Community. Where is she on the weekend and weekdays while I am hard at work with parent's with children with Autism?
Oh, that's right...I remember!
Foresam and others who is sided him
is a Joke!!!!!!! They nothing but
bullies who tells lies about you and love the drama because of it. The reason the they are doing it, because of their low self-esteem and they are trying to bring you down with them in order to "feel good" about themselves AND DON'T LET THEM TO THAT TO MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT YOURSELF!!! KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND ENJOY LIFE!!! Bacause the one who do it, It just that they not enjoing life and they are trying to take you down with them too. Just ignore these Jerks!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and sone "FLAMING IDIOTS" are trying to do the same as Foresam and others who is sided him, and is also a joke too. Just ignore these Jerks!!!!!!!
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